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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:35:00 -
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wripple wrote:Don't get me wrong, I have litterally no skill points spent into the Swarms (I use the Dren BPO with complex damage mods) however I don't think that it is fair that vehicles will be getting a respec due to their changes, whereas swarm launchers will be getting none while receiving an equally drastic change.
I have quite a few friends who have spent quite a large sum of skill points (some of it with the help of paid boosters) yet it is simply not fair to completely change the weapon without refunding the user for the time and real life money they have invested into it.
Imagine buying a red car, then getting a call 3 months later from the dealer that the car has to be painted pink. I no longer want this new pink car, I'd want my money back so I can get a car that I'd much rather want. People don't skill into the item, they skill into the results it provides, do not drastically change the results without reimbursing the user.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:36:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:wripple wrote:Don't get me wrong, I have litterally no skill points spent into the Swarms (I use the Dren BPO with complex damage mods) however I don't think that it is fair that vehicles will be getting a respec due to their changes, whereas swarm launchers will be getting none while receiving an equally drastic change.
I have quite a few friends who have spent quite a large sum of skill points (some of it with the help of paid boosters) yet it is simply not fair to completely change the weapon without refunding the user for the time and real life money they have invested into it.
Imagine buying a red car, then getting a call 3 months later from the dealer that the car has to be painted pink. I no longer want this new pink car, I'd want my money back so I can get a car that I'd much rather want. People don't skill into the item, they skill into the results it provides, do not drastically change the results without reimbursing the user. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4
I mean, have you looked at how much SP it takes to use Swarms as opposed to how much it takes to use an HAV?
I think people will live.
AAAAAND I succesfully double posted while quoting my own post.
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2013.12.01 07:05:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I want one.
I dedicated the better half of my SP on Swarm Launchers. I even got a suit I despise, the Minmatar Assault, all the way to proto, just to make the best of it.
Though, at the same time, tanks will be nerfed. Though, I digress, a respec is in order.
Vehicles aren't getting nerfed, my friend. Their application is being changed, and people with good fitting skill will make them do far more than they ever could before.
Being able to spam missiles at vehicles from 400 meters was broken and stupid. In exchange for your shorter range you can now empty the launcher far faster and reload faster to boot.
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Mobius Wyvern
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Posted - 2013.12.01 08:34:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I want one.
I dedicated the better half of my SP on Swarm Launchers. I even got a suit I despise, the Minmatar Assault, all the way to proto, just to make the best of it.
Though, at the same time, tanks will be nerfed. Though, I digress, a respec is in order. Vehicles aren't getting nerfed, my friend. Their application is being changed, and people with good fitting skill will make them do far more than they ever could before. Being able to spam missiles at vehicles from 400 meters was broken and stupid. In exchange for your shorter range you can now empty the launcher far faster and reload faster to boot. You can shoot them from 400m away, but you can rarely kill anything from that range. It is a scare tactic, just like I can shoot an HAV twice with a plasma cannon and make them run for the hills. That is not why I am disgruntled. I am ashen due to damage being halved. Halved. Let that sink in. Not to mention AV grenades are also being severely nerfed. My weapons will be useless. My SP will have been for not. Unless of course, HAV's are indeed being nerfed like many tankers have proclaimed.
All you have to do is wait for them to hit cooldown on their modules, which you can easily see by the visual effects dissapearing, and then hit them with all you've got. You'll take them down.
Amidst the blue skies
A link from past to future
The sheltering wings of the protector
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions
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Posted - 2013.12.01 18:59:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:I want one.
I dedicated the better half of my SP on Swarm Launchers. I even got a suit I despise, the Minmatar Assault, all the way to proto, just to make the best of it.
Though, at the same time, tanks will be nerfed. Though, I digress, a respec is in order. Vehicles aren't getting nerfed, my friend. Their application is being changed, and people with good fitting skill will make them do far more than they ever could before. Being able to spam missiles at vehicles from 400 meters was broken and stupid. In exchange for your shorter range you can now empty the launcher far faster and reload faster to boot. You can shoot them from 400m away, but you can rarely kill anything from that range. It is a scare tactic, just like I can shoot an HAV twice with a plasma cannon and make them run for the hills. That is not why I am disgruntled. I am ashen due to damage being halved. Halved. Let that sink in. Not to mention AV grenades are also being severely nerfed. My weapons will be useless. My SP will have been for not. Unless of course, HAV's are indeed being nerfed like many tankers have proclaimed. All you have to do is wait for them to hit cooldown on their modules, which you can easily see by the visual effects dissapearing, and then hit them with all you've got. You'll take them down. You assume that they won't shoot back at you, nor that they will retreat behind hills into the red line, nor that they'll have an entourage of Proto infantry. You assume tankers are immensely stupid.
No, I assume that as an AV player you will attempt to counter those counters you just listed out to me in order to get the kill.
Besides, most of my encounters with HAVs are ones used at close range. There's only so far you can run from infantry that can hide behind things or get on top of things to hit you.
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